# Amp's group Space Cadets - Whaaat!?
**URL:** https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419
**Category:** Other P Topics
**Tags:** amp-fiddler
**Created:** [April 18, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419 "2020-04-18T23:01:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@silentboatman](https://pfunkforums.com/u/silentboatman)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/1 "2020-04-18T23:01:17Z")
In anticipation of the upcoming [Motor City Booty vinyl re-release](https://pfunkforums.com/t/motor-city-booty-with-amp-on-numbered-vinyl/351), I went back and listened to a lot of Amp releases and started reading interviews and stuff. Did you know he stared working with pfunk as early as around 1984/1985? He’s done so much things! Here’s two nice article/interviews.
> **[Interview: Amp Fiddler](https://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2017/06/interview-amp-fiddler/)**
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> The producer, keyboardist, singer and Detroit cornerstone revisits his collaborations with P-Funk, Prince and J Dilla.
[https://thevinylfactory.com/features/amp-fiddler-detroit-interview/](https://thevinylfactory.com/features/amp-fiddler-detroit-interview/) _[edit: article removed]_
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One thing I wasn’t able to find (and don’t really remember) was when he stopped touring with pfunk (as a regular member). Anybody knows?
A thing that I did find was that he made a 7" single named _Spaced Outta Place_ all the way back in 1981. There’s two different releases, credited to two different groups. One name is Sundown. But the real strange thing is that the other name is _Space Cadets_. Whaaat!? The same name and from the same year as the usual Space Cadets (with Bernie).. Coincident? I don’t know. And that was a couple of years before he hooked up with GC. Anybody heard the story behind that?
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The tracks on the releases seems also to differ. Here’s what I found on youtube.
**Sundown version**
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_OBcY4Rjr8)
**Space Cadets version**
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhdB_hAZc14)
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### Author:  [@Seventieslord](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Seventieslord)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/2 "2020-04-19T18:19:41Z")
wow, interesting. I wonder if they released one run of singles under that name, then realized that Bernie and co were already working on something under that name, then re-released it under the name Sundown. That’s all I can think of.
Funky stuff.
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### Author:  [@Ampidelic](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Ampidelic)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/3 "2020-04-19T19:33:41Z")
What up Funksters, The first record I ever made was the Spaced out of place in 1981 I think. Had just got my first synthesizer and was heavy into PFunk etc. Fun key times fa sho.
I decided to stay home to raise my son after 10 years of touring with the Funkiest band on the planet in about 96…Family was high on my list at the time 🤘🏾. Thanks for checkin this y’all
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### Author:  [@silentboatman](https://pfunkforums.com/u/silentboatman)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2020, 7:50pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/4 "2020-04-19T19:50:41Z")
Thanks for the info @Ampidelic!
I wonder if you were at the pfunk show I saw in Stockholm in ’96. Gotta go back and check my photos 🙂.
Anyhow, do you remember why this 7” had two releases with two different names?
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### Author:  [@Ampidelic](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Ampidelic)
#### Post date: [April 19, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/5 "2020-04-19T20:56:25Z")
What up doe Silentboatman …We releases the faster version and realized the slower version was better and released it afterwords.
Funk is most o the time better slower even though I make shot for the dance floor funky as well 🤘🏾
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### Author:  [@OooBooBeeDoop](https://pfunkforums.com/u/OooBooBeeDoop)
#### Post date: [April 22, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/6 "2020-04-22T00:18:01Z")
Amp is a musical genius. I’ve seen gigs in the 1990’s where he was doing some stuff and I thought it was the second coming of Bernie.
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### Author:  [@Poleary](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Poleary)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2020, 2:41pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/7 "2020-04-25T14:41:11Z")
I first saw Amp playing free at the 2005-6(?) TasteFest, amazing gift. Killed it.
Been looking into his other work, thanks for posting this track!
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### Author:  [@silentboatman](https://pfunkforums.com/u/silentboatman)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/8 "2020-04-25T15:14:43Z")
No problem. Welcome to the forum!
TasteFest was July 4 (2006), right? I think these are from that show.
  
_photos by paul warner_
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### Author:  [@OooBooBeeDoop](https://pfunkforums.com/u/OooBooBeeDoop)
#### Post date: [April 25, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/9 "2020-04-25T23:15:27Z")
Criminally underrated musician and apparently a very humble soul. He should be at the top of somebody’s chart and a household name in music but he doesn’t seem to care about that. I heard he is much more well known across the pond than he is here in the states.
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### Author:  [@Poleary](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Poleary)
#### Post date: [April 28, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/10 "2020-04-28T23:57:35Z")
Thanks for the welcome! I was able to piece it together, I saw him there the year before, same day as Los Lobos. Definitely remember my sister kept calling him “Amp Finder” lmaoo
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### Author:  [@MrSuperNobody](https://pfunkforums.com/u/MrSuperNobody)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/11 "2020-04-30T12:49:02Z")
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### Author:  [@MrSuperNobody](https://pfunkforums.com/u/MrSuperNobody)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 12:52pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/12 "2020-04-30T12:52:40Z")
☝🏼I knew I had an Amp poster somewhere… I also dug out my (md) recording of this gig from 2004, way too loud… shame it wasn’t one of my best!🤘🏼
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### Author:  [@MrSuperNobody](https://pfunkforums.com/u/MrSuperNobody)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/13 "2020-04-30T13:01:08Z")
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### Author:  [@silentboatman](https://pfunkforums.com/u/silentboatman)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/14 "2020-04-30T18:22:16Z")
Nice posters! To bad your recording turned out too loud. I think I have a live show with Amp, I need to see if I can find it.
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### Author:  [@MrSuperNobody](https://pfunkforums.com/u/MrSuperNobody)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/15 "2020-04-30T19:24:22Z")
☝🏼Cheers! I’d completely forgot I had them until I read this post. Dunno about the live show I listened to half of it before I gave up. On a more positive note there was a recording of my daughter with her friends aged three on the same disc which was also great to rediscover.
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### Author:  [@MrSuperNobody](https://pfunkforums.com/u/MrSuperNobody)
#### Post date: [April 30, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/16 "2020-04-30T19:28:22Z")
☝🏼The weekend before the gig ‘Amp’ appeared on BBC ‘The Jools Holland Show’ great performance especially the second song!!!🤘🏼
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj4TXMqv02w)
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### Author:  [@Seventieslord](https://pfunkforums.com/u/Seventieslord)
#### Post date: [June 26, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/17 "2020-06-26T03:03:40Z")
Someone changed the artist on this release to be the same as Bernie’s Space Cadets. That’s wrong, right? I never got the impression from Mr. Fiddler that this had anything to do with those guys.
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### Author:  [@silentboatman](https://pfunkforums.com/u/silentboatman)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2020, 10:47pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/18 "2020-06-27T22:47:26Z")
Yeah, that’s wrong. I changed it to another one.
I wonder if Amp and Bernie ever talked about that they had the same band name at the same time 🙂 . And both were playing keys for the p, what are the odds??
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### Author:  [@FreedomFlower](https://pfunkforums.com/u/FreedomFlower)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://pfunkforums.com/t/amps-group-space-cadets-whaaat/419/19 "2021-02-14T13:26:25Z")
My new favourite thing: the music of Amp Fiddler. Been hammering the first two albums all weekend and just started playing Motor…
🤘